[Ltsp-discuss] experienced thin client platforms?

[David Burgess]

I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, and wondering what
the current favourites are for thin client hardware. I used to deploy
the Intel D525MW Atom board with a couple GB of RAM and PicoPSU and
case from mini-box.com.

With Intel out of the board market, what are people recommending for
compatibility and power savings? Decent graphics performance would be
nice, but less of a priority for me than cost and idel power
consumption.

The Celeron NUC looks tempting:

https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-board-dn2820fykh.html

Of course mini-box has their own pre-config systems, but as I recall
there were problems with some of the Atom graphics chips and lack of
Linux drivers.

http://www.mini-box.com/MiniPC-Value-Systems

Thoughts or recommendations?

db

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[Kent Schumacher]

I have had really good luck with the shuttle XS35 series, though I'm
having some trouble getting the V4 version to do a pxe-boot.

I've only spent 15 minutes on the problem, so I'm presuming I'll figure
out the correct settings with a little more effort.


On 05/14/2015 02:51 PM, ltsp-***@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, and wondering what
> the current favourites are for thin client hardware. I used to deploy
> the Intel D525MW Atom board with a couple GB of RAM and PicoPSU and
> case from mini-box.com.
>
> With Intel out of the board market, what are people recommending for
> compatibility and power savings? Decent graphics performance would be
> nice, but less of a priority for me than cost and idel power
> consumption.
>
> The Celeron NUC looks tempting:
>
> https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-board-dn2820fykh.html
>
> Of course mini-box has their own pre-config systems, but as I recall
> there were problems with some of the Atom graphics chips and lack of
> Linux drivers.
>
> http://www.mini-box.com/MiniPC-Value-Systems
>
> Thoughts or recommendations?
>
> db
>
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[Graham Innes]

If you can afford the extra space, for half the price of the NUC (with
ULV processors), you can get Celeron desktop processors with much better
performance and even comfortably run them as fat clients. That's what we
did, and things are good.

When we built ours early last year, we used Ivy Bridge Asus uATX desktop
boards (H61M-K) with socketed Intel Celeron G1620 processors, 2 GB
generic RAM (now upgraded to 4 GB) and low power generic PSUs with 12cm
fans. Total cost at that time was around $130 each (without case, I
guess $150 with a cheap case). They score 2650 on cpubenchmark.net and
consume less than 20W (without monitor).

The Haswell Celerons (G1800 series) currently available are the same
price we paid for our Ivy Bridges at the time. The base G1820 scores a
healthy 2800 on cpubenchmark. Broadwell Celerons should be out soon,
promising lower power consumption and slightly better performance.

Meanwhile, a NUC with a Core i3-3217U scores just 2200 on
cpubenchmark.net and costs $250 barebone, so $300 with 4GB RAM. On the
upside I guess they run closer to 10W and consume a lot less space.

Obviously cpubenchmark.net is just one synthetic benchmark, but we have
found it to be a good indicator of overall desktop performance for
general office use.

We have had no compatibility issues with our setup, and aside from one
DOA board, everything has been reliable and stable.



On Friday, 15 May, 2015 03:54 AM, Kent Schumacher wrote:
> I have had really good luck with the shuttle XS35 series, though I'm
> having some trouble getting the V4 version to do a pxe-boot.
>
> I've only spent 15 minutes on the problem, so I'm presuming I'll figure
> out the correct settings with a little more effort.
>
>
> On 05/14/2015 02:51 PM, ltsp-***@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
>> I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, and wondering what
>> the current favourites are for thin client hardware. I used to deploy
>> the Intel D525MW Atom board with a couple GB of RAM and PicoPSU and
>> case from mini-box.com.
>>
>> With Intel out of the board market, what are people recommending for
>> compatibility and power savings? Decent graphics performance would be
>> nice, but less of a priority for me than cost and idel power
>> consumption.
>>
>> The Celeron NUC looks tempting:
>>
>> https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-board-dn2820fykh.html
>>
>> Of course mini-box has their own pre-config systems, but as I recall
>> there were problems with some of the Atom graphics chips and lack of
>> Linux drivers.
>>
>> http://www.mini-box.com/MiniPC-Value-Systems
>>
>> Thoughts or recommendations?
>>
>> db
>>
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>>
>>
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[Denis Croombs]

We use the Zotac Zbox devices (approx 100 euro) and old PC's and
currently have 5 LTSP servers (each team have their own server) and 250+
people (1 server has 150 people on it) others are much smaller (we will
in 2/3 months time have 30+ LTSP servers supporting 800+ people)
The Zbox is the dual Celeron CPU with 1 or 2gb Ram and PXE boots very
nicely.

Denis

On 15/05/2015 02:25, Graham Innes wrote:
> If you can afford the extra space, for half the price of the NUC (with
> ULV processors), you can get Celeron desktop processors with much
> better performance and even comfortably run them as fat clients.
> That's what we did, and things are good.
>
> When we built ours early last year, we used Ivy Bridge Asus uATX
> desktop boards (H61M-K) with socketed Intel Celeron G1620 processors,
> 2 GB generic RAM (now upgraded to 4 GB) and low power generic PSUs
> with 12cm fans. Total cost at that time was around $130 each (without
> case, I guess $150 with a cheap case). They score 2650 on
> cpubenchmark.net and consume less than 20W (without monitor).
>
> The Haswell Celerons (G1800 series) currently available are the same
> price we paid for our Ivy Bridges at the time. The base G1820 scores a
> healthy 2800 on cpubenchmark. Broadwell Celerons should be out soon,
> promising lower power consumption and slightly better performance.
>
> Meanwhile, a NUC with a Core i3-3217U scores just 2200 on
> cpubenchmark.net and costs $250 barebone, so $300 with 4GB RAM. On the
> upside I guess they run closer to 10W and consume a lot less space.
>
> Obviously cpubenchmark.net is just one synthetic benchmark, but we
> have found it to be a good indicator of overall desktop performance
> for general office use.
>
> We have had no compatibility issues with our setup, and aside from
> one DOA board, everything has been reliable and stable.
>
>
>
> On Friday, 15 May, 2015 03:54 AM, Kent Schumacher wrote:
>> I have had really good luck with the shuttle XS35 series, though I'm
>> having some trouble getting the V4 version to do a pxe-boot.
>>
>> I've only spent 15 minutes on the problem, so I'm presuming I'll figure
>> out the correct settings with a little more effort.
>>
>>
>> On 05/14/2015 02:51 PM,ltsp-***@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
>>> I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, and wondering what
>>> the current favourites are for thin client hardware. I used to deploy
>>> the Intel D525MW Atom board with a couple GB of RAM and PicoPSU and
>>> case from mini-box.com.
>>>
>>> With Intel out of the board market, what are people recommending for
>>> compatibility and power savings? Decent graphics performance would be
>>> nice, but less of a priority for me than cost and idel power
>>> consumption.
>>>
>>> The Celeron NUC looks tempting:
>>>
>>> https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-board-dn2820fykh.html
>>>
>>> Of course mini-box has their own pre-config systems, but as I recall
>>> there were problems with some of the Atom graphics chips and lack of
>>> Linux drivers.
>>>
>>> http://www.mini-box.com/MiniPC-Value-Systems
>>>
>>> Thoughts or recommendations?
>>>
>>> db
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
>
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[Johan Kragsterman]

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